Showing posts with label Profit. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Profit. Show all posts

Sunday, January 14, 2018

Profit management/Bodhisatta/Self/Satta profit thought schedule/3 ceased saṃyojana of sotāpanna/Case study

Summary: They try every method to keep there child's life without any conflict to the dependent origination cessation (nirodhavara paṭiccasamuppāda = nirodhasacca&maggasacca).

Profit management case study to develop the cessation of saṃyojana:

Now, for example, a deadly worm (health enermy=meditation enermy) is in the stomach of a sotapanna's child (general child=uneducated=less useful skill to understand magga for nibbāna). The only thing to help his child (thought by sakkāyadiṭṭhi-mind) is to kill the worm (thought by sīlabataparāmāsa-mind) otherwise his child will die (thought by sakkāyadiṭṭhi-mind). With his perfect morality, what would a sotapanna do, will a sotapanna (naturally) let his child die? (thought by vicikicchā-mind in the perfect 9 profits managment of ariya)
Now, for example, a deadly worm is in the stomach of a sotapanna's child. The only thing to help his child (thought by sakkāyadiṭṭhi-mind) is to kill the worm (thought by sīlabataparāmāsa-mind) otherwise his child will die (thought by sakkāyadiṭṭhi-mind). With his perfect morality, what would a sotapanna do, will a sotapanna (naturally) let his child die? (thought by vicikicchā-mind in the perfect 9 profits managment of ariya)
Let's consider this case:
  1. Operation technique already knew before buddha time, such as jīvaka komārabhacca operation in v.n. cīvarakkhandhaka:
Then Jīvaka Komārabhacca, having made the householder, the merchant lie down on a couch, having strapped him to the couch, having cut open the skin of his head, having opened a suture in the skull, having drawn out two living creatures, showed them to the people, saying:
  1. So, he can try to take the worm off his child.
  2. Therefore ordinary person thinking by sakkāyadiṭṭhi-mind (self's child[the other familiar self]) , then he try to do sīlabataparāmāsa, killing worm.
  3. Conclusion: this case is vicikicchā of ordinary person in the wisdom of sotāpanna.
What sotāpanna will think for this case:
The example:
  • Let the other ordinary person listen & decide the treatment guidelines with the doctor, directly, instead of him, such as child's self, family, doctor, nurse, consultant, etc. By this way, he has not to know the
  • Or decide to take the worm out of his child, then heal his child and feed the worm, too.
The comparison case in Tiṭhānasuttavaṇṇanā of A.N.Commentary:
A woman took her baby to go to cittaladāpabbata forest monastery with her. Then she laid her baby at the root of a tree, then she stood to listen dhamma (probably many listeners or the monk standing). In the dusk, a snake came to the laid baby then bite him by it's 4 fangs. After she knew that situation, she thought 'if I shouted "my daughter had bitten by snake", it will hinder my dhamma (dhamma listening and lokuttaradhamma)'. Then she thought followed assusutta and tiṇakaṭṭhasutta in nidānavagga (paṭiccasamuppāda) 'while the paṭiccasamuppāda still revolve, this baby had been and will be my baby uncountable times (again and again). So I chose to meditate the dhamma". She stood through the whole night, understand the dhamma. When the sunset, she enlightened as sotāpanna.
Let's analysis this case:
  1. The history: in the past, it is very hard to go to monastery to listen dhamma because there was no automobile, and the monastery was very far in the forest. And in the past, poisonous-snake-biting was a critical accident that almost 100% to die. The other, everyone in the village takes day off together on uposatha day to go to listen dhamma. Another, she may knew that sake is not poisonous.
  2. Her baby can't understand dhamma, although her baby can survive, because he was very young. But she can did. So, she thought followed the sutta in nidānavagga.
  3. She was a very genius woman, because she can memorized the sutta. So, she may be able to guess that she will enlighten today.

To understand above answer clearly, you have to know:** 9 profits, both 2 profits, 3 saṃyojanas, 3 bodhisattas, self words, etc, **to understand through the sotāpanna's thought process.

9 profits 2 profits 3 profits:

There are many profits in Khaggavisāṇasuttaniddeso, such as 9 profits of buddhist follower to keep:
  1. self profit in present, in future, and to enlighten nibbāna.
  2. The others profit in present, in future, and to enlighten nibbāna.
  3. Public profit in present, in future, and to enlighten nibbāna.
In sāropamasutta and mahācattārīsakasutta, buddha categorizes those 9 profits to 2 types:
  1. main profit (sāra) = lokuttara-profit = nibbāna&magga&phala.
  2. support profits (asāra) = lokiya-profits = present&future profits.
Another 2 types appeared in Chavālatasuttaṃ:
  1. self profit = 2 self/family/familiar profit
  2. public profit = 2 good/better/best public profit

Self words in this answer:

Self in "myself and the other" or "myself and the public" can means "wholesome/unwholesome/neither wholesome nor unwholesome".
Self in "sakkāyadhiṭṭhi-saṃyojana" can means unwholesome only. It is wrong view about the relativity of dependent origination (paṭiccasamuppāda).

3 ceased saṃyojana of sotāpanna:

Pāli translation (by saṃyojana context's sequence) of first 3 saṃyojana that are destroyed by sotāpanna should be:
Micchādiṭṭhi causes vicikicchā and sīlabataparāmāsa.
The explanation:
Misunderstanding the relativity (causes and effects) causes doubting the relativity and causes doing wrong physical verbal&bodily actions (kāya&vacī-viññatti-cittajarūpa) that cause low-quality resultant-minds&kammaja-rūpa, such as hell realm, etc.
The relativity in buddhism is paṭiccasamuppāda (the dependent origination). Micchādiṭṭhi is in every saṃyojana step (avijjā, taṇhā, upādāna) of paṭiccasamuppāda, see the reference sutta here.

3 bodhisattas:

From Thūparahasuttaṃ, Navakaniddeso, and Buddhavaṃso:
  1. Sammā-sambuddha-bodhisatta
    The person who decided to keep the tree public profits. He ready to enlighten before he makes that decision, but his the public help skills (30 pāramī) are not ready yet. At least 4 asaṅkhaya + excess 100 thousands mahākappa are required to develop these public help skills (30 pāramī).
  2. Pacceka-sambuddha-bodhisatta
    The person who decided to enlighten by himself, without the support of Sammā-sambuddha-bodhisatta's teaching. And he decided to keep just the tree self profits, only his profits, too. He not ready to enlighten, but he trying to done it by himself, so he need longer time than sutabuddha to trial and error of enlightenment skill. At least 2 asaṅkhaya + excess 100 thousands mahākappa are required to develop by himself the trial and error of enlightenment skill.
  3. Sāvaka-bodhisatta (sutabuddha)
    1. Assistant sāvaka The person who decided to keep the tree public profits by supporting the sammā-sambuddha-bodhisatta. They were the buddha's supporter. He ready to enlighten before he makes that decision, but his the public help skills (30 pāramī) are not ready yet. At least, excess 100 thousands mahākappa are required to develop these buddha supporter skill. The most of this kind are 500 thera/therī in 1st saṅgāyanā, which appeared in thera/therī-gāthā/apādāna. IMO, these cannons are their biography like a board of committee list in the company's meeting, and included their dead teachers' biographies, such as sāriputta and moggallāna. The same thing appear at the fist page of parivāra of upāli also. So, the 500 thera/therī in 1st saṅgāyanā must very give precedence to the profile of the quorum, like the appeared text in every gāhā, that thay all were 6 abhiññā and 4 paṭisambhidappattā people. Another, IMO, this kind included the very important sāvaka after 1st saṅgāyana, too, such as some skillful monks who I can not specify them but by the logic, they should be to keep the buddhism age going on, until 5000 years will finish.
    2. General sāvaka The person who decided to keep just the tree self profits by less supporting to the sammā-sambuddha-bodhisatta. No specified time of development for this sāvaka kind.

Satta profit thought schedule:

Sammā-sambuddha-bodhisatta & Assistant sāvaka=Practiced 3 higher training =leading the public to main profit:
  1. main&support public profit.
  2. main&support self profit.
Pacceka-sambuddha-bodhisatta & General sāvaka=Practiced 3 higher training =leading only self to main profit:
  1. main&support self profit. Same time.
  2. main&support public profit. Same time.
  3. main&support self profit & public profit. Same time.
Eternalism=Sassata-diṭṭhi=Practicing 3 lower training=Leading to heaven:
  1. must future profit.
    1.1. maybe self profit. 1.2. maybe family/familiar profit. 1.3. maybe public profit.
  2. maybe present profit.
    2.1. maybe self profit. 2.2. maybe family/familiar profit. 2.3. maybe public profit.
Nihilism=Uccheda-diṭṭhi=Lacking 3 lower training=Lead to hell:
  1. must present profit.
    1.1. maybe self profit. 1.2. maybe family/familiar profit. 1.3. maybe public profit.
  2. maybe future profit.
    2.1. maybe self profit. 2.2. maybe family/familiar profit. 2.3. maybe public profit.
** above both micchādiṭṭhi schedule lists look inclined self profit first, because of sakkāya-diṭṭhi in 10 saṃyojana.

So, I wrote above:

They try every method to keep there child's life without any conflict to relativity cessation (nirodhavara paṭiccasamuppāda=nirodhasacca&maggasacca).

Thursday, September 14, 2017

Receive 6 profits by deny extreme ways and meditate middle way

  1. Anti-rebirthist = sassatadiṭṭhi = one extreme.
  2. Rebirth-lover = ucchedadiṭṭhi = another extreme.
  3. Profit-follower = eightfold path = middle way.
1st and 2nd see brahmajālasutta.
3rd see dhammacakkappavaḍḍhanasutta. (I am in plan to re-translate this sutta, but I can't not done it now. So if something wrong, I am sorry. I can't not check it deeply now, because my english still not good enough.)
"There are these two extremes that are not to be indulged in by one who has gone forth. Which two? That which is devoted to sensual pleasure with reference to sensual objects: base, vulgar, common, ignoble, unprofitable; and that which is devoted to self-affliction: painful, ignoble, unprofitable. Avoiding both of these extremes, the middle way realized by the Tathagata — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding.
"And what is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding? Precisely this Noble Eightfold Path: right view, right contemplate, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. This is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding.

What is profit?

6 profits: self profit, the others' profit, public's profit (common interest), this life's profit, next life's profit, and nibbāna-profit. (pali for search: attattha, parattha, attaparattha, ditthadhammika, samparāyika, and paramattha.)
Self profit, the others' profit, and public's profit (common interest) are done together by sati.
"Because of what I have said here, monks, you should train yourselves such that the gifts of those whose requisites we use — the robes, alms-bowl, chair, bed, and medicine as a support when sick — will have great fruits, great merits [for the people who give them], and our going forth will not be in vain, will be fruitful, will have a result. Thus should you train yourselves, thoroughly seeing that for your own benefit, monks, it is right to strive with heedfulness; thoroughly seeing that for the benefit of others, monks, it is right to strive with heedfulness; and thoroughly seeing that for the benefit of both, monks, it is right to strive with heedfulness."
This life's profit and next life's profit are done together by sati (appamāda). So, person who do just this life's profit or next life profit is pamāda person. see:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn03/sn03.017.than.html
Nibbāna profit can be accessed by practitioner after he perfect finished to meditate magga. And that magga can start to meditate after sīla is done.
SN 45.149 Just as, bhikkhus, whatever actions are to be performed with strength are all performed on dependence on the earth, supported by the earth; in the same way, bhikkhus, it is on dependence on virtue, supported by virtue, that a bhikkhu develops the noble eightfold path (magga), that he cultivates the noble eightfold path.
Above sīla give this life's profit and next life. See (1st-4th are this life's profit, 5th is next life's profit):
Mahāparinibbānasutta 24. "Five blessings, householders, accrue to the righteous man through his practice of virtue: great increase of wealth through his diligence; a favorable reputation; a confident deportment, without timidity, in every society, be it that of nobles, brahmans, householders, or ascetics; a serene death; and, at the breaking up of the body after death, rebirth in a happy state, in a heavenly world."
So, anti-rebirthist & rebirth-lover are pamādo (person who has not meditating mindfulness).
That is one of many reasons that why I, who have never seen any ghost or any spirit, am not deny next life.